[Oisf-devel] File MD5 inconsistent checksums.

Nikolay Denev ndenev at gmail.com
Thu Jul 12 08:55:34 UTC 2012


On Jul 12, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Victor Julien wrote:

> On 07/12/2012 10:42 AM, Nikolay Denev wrote:
>> 
>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Victor Julien wrote:
>> 
>>> On 07/12/2012 10:09 AM, Nikolay Denev wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 10:16 AM, Victor Julien wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 07/12/2012 08:27 AM, Nikolay Denev wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Nikolay Denev wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 9:03 AM, Nikolay Denev wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'm seeing some strange behaviour while testing the filemd5 and md5 checksumming in general.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have a server which serves a file over http and the server port on the switch is mirrored to a box running suricata.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have the md5 of the file as it is on the server : c2ddef96c8a1aeddf316ff3cba37f318
>>>>>>>> When I do a curl download and pipe it to md5 the checksum matches.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> :~ ndenev$ curl http://testserver.example.com/test.img | md5
>>>>>>>> % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
>>>>>>>>                             Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
>>>>>>>> 100  117k  100  117k    0     0  1744k      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 1933k
>>>>>>>> c2ddef96c8a1aeddf316ff3cba37f318
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> However the filemd5 rule I've created never matches, and files-json.log shows completely different checksums, which also are not consistent?
>>>>>>>> And the filesize too differs, and as I said the curl on the client machine gives the same md5 each time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> { "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-07:56:15.944637", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.46.16.9", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 51135, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "CLOSED", "md5": "7890dc88c2f0f4d0706eef8bbfc33d75", "stored": false, "size": 4152 }
>>>>>>>> { "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-07:56:25.033265", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.46.16.9", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 51136, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "CLOSED", "md5": "4b9fda98fbee8f4afea75b7b466b2e1a", "stored": false, "size": 3839 }
>>>>>>>> { "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-07:56:30.232624", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.46.16.9", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 51138, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "CLOSED", "md5": "7890dc88c2f0f4d0706eef8bbfc33d75", "stored": false, "size": 4152 }
>>>>>>>> { "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-07:56:35.410789", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.46.16.9", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 51140, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "CLOSED", "md5": "7890dc88c2f0f4d0706eef8bbfc33d75", "stored": false, "size": 4152 }
>>>>>>>> { "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-07:56:39.225699", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.46.16.9", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 51142, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "CLOSED", "md5": "7890dc88c2f0f4d0706eef8bbfc33d75", "stored": false, "size": 4152 }
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This is the latest entry in my stats.log :
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Date: 7/12/2012 -- 08:00:24 (uptime: 0d, 00h 11m 20s)
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Counter                   | TM Name                   | Value
>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> tcp.sessions              | Detect                    | 11097
>>>>>>>> tcp.ssn_memcap_drop       | Detect                    | 0
>>>>>>>> tcp.pseudo                | Detect                    | 6762
>>>>>>>> tcp.invalid_checksum      | Detect                    | 22
>>>>>>>> tcp.no_flow               | Detect                    | 0
>>>>>>>> tcp.reused_ssn            | Detect                    | 0
>>>>>>>> tcp.memuse                | Detect                    | 72351744
>>>>>>>> tcp.syn                   | Detect                    | 11520
>>>>>>>> tcp.synack                | Detect                    | 10973
>>>>>>>> tcp.rst                   | Detect                    | 7998
>>>>>>>> tcp.segment_memcap_drop   | Detect                    | 0
>>>>>>>> tcp.stream_depth_reached  | Detect                    | 0
>>>>>>>> tcp.reassembly_memuse     | Detect                    | 156557860
>>>>>>>> tcp.reassembly_gap        | Detect                    | 3646
>>>>>>>> detect.alert              | Detect                    | 24
>>>>>>>> decoder.pkts              | RxPcapix01                | 7799419
>>>>>>>> decoder.bytes             | RxPcapix01                | 6619532090
>>>>>>>> decoder.ipv4              | RxPcapix01                | 7732780
>>>>>>>> decoder.ipv6              | RxPcapix01                | 181
>>>>>>>> decoder.ethernet          | RxPcapix01                | 7799419
>>>>>>>> decoder.raw               | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> decoder.sll               | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> decoder.tcp               | RxPcapix01                | 4036503
>>>>>>>> decoder.udp               | RxPcapix01                | 767312
>>>>>>>> decoder.sctp              | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> decoder.icmpv4            | RxPcapix01                | 1957
>>>>>>>> decoder.icmpv6            | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> decoder.ppp               | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> decoder.pppoe             | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> decoder.gre               | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> decoder.vlan              | RxPcapix01                | 15588470
>>>>>>>> decoder.avg_pkt_size      | RxPcapix01                | 849
>>>>>>>> decoder.max_pkt_size      | RxPcapix01                | 1518
>>>>>>>> defrag.ipv4.fragments     | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> defrag.ipv4.reassembled   | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> defrag.ipv4.timeouts      | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> defrag.ipv6.fragments     | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> defrag.ipv6.reassembled   | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> defrag.ipv6.timeouts      | RxPcapix01                | 0
>>>>>>>> flow_mgr.closed_pruned    | FlowManagerThread         | 9036
>>>>>>>> flow_mgr.new_pruned       | FlowManagerThread         | 3033
>>>>>>>> flow_mgr.est_pruned       | FlowManagerThread         | 4478
>>>>>>>> flow.memuse               | FlowManagerThread         | 5401024
>>>>>>>> flow.spare                | FlowManagerThread         | 10034
>>>>>>>> flow.emerg_mode_entered   | FlowManagerThread         | 0
>>>>>>>> flow.emerg_mode_over      | FlowManagerThread         | 0
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've now setup a rule to "filestore" the downloads so I can check them, and the stored files seem truncated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also files-json.log continues to log "stored: false" while the files are actually saved.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The file on the server is about 120K, but the saved files are about 4K.
>>>>>> Which also reminds me that I've never actually saw a file much bigger than a few KBs in my files dir.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you try increasing your request-body-limit and response-body-limit?
>>>>> https://redmine.openinfosecfoundation.org/projects/suricata/wiki/File_Extraction#Settings
>>>>> 
>>>>> The fact that the state is "closed" looks like a bug btw.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> Victor Julien
>>>>> http://www.inliniac.net/
>>>>> PGP: http://www.inliniac.net/victorjulien.asc
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My request-body-limit was set to 0 (unlimited), and response-body-limit was about 3k, and I've set it now to unlimited too.
>>>> Also my stream.reassembly.depth is set to unlimited.
>>>> 
>>>> Now I'm seeing this in files-json.log :
>>>> 
>>>> { "id": 95268539, "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-10:01:40.012440", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.129.23.105", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 53072, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "UNKNOWN", "stored": true, "size": 88654 }
>>>> { "id": 95268540, "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-10:01:56.041302", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.129.23.105", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 53074, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "UNKNOWN", "stored": true, "size": 88654 }
>>>> { "id": 95268541, "timestamp": "07\/12\/2012-10:01:59.306984", "ipver": 4, "srcip": "10.128.2.35", "dstip": "10.129.23.105", "protocol": 6, "sp": 80, "dp": 53076, "http_uri": "\/test.img", "http_host": "testserver.example.com", "http_referer": "<unknown>", "filename": "\/test.img", "magic": "ASCII text", "state": "UNKNOWN", "stored": true, "size": 88654 }
>>>> 
>>>> No MD5, but it says "stored:true".
>>>> The file is much bigger, but again truncated.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I can provide my suricata.yaml if needed.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cool. A pcap would also be good.
>>> 
>>> Btw, I noticed in your stats.log that you have quite a few
>>> tcp.reassembly_gap's. Might indicate pkt loss or stream engine running
>>> low on memory.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>>> Victor Julien
>>> http://www.inliniac.net/
>>> PGP: http://www.inliniac.net/victorjulien.asc
>>> ---------------------------------------------
>> 
>> It seems the machine just can't keep up with the processing.
>> When I loaded just the local.rules signature file, I'm now seeing proper checksum in files-json.log, and the stored file is not truncated.
>> 
>> I'm running with "ac-bs" and the machine has free memory, but probably the CPU is just not enough. (Xeon E5420 @ 2.50GHz).
>> 
> 
> Are you running ac-bs with:
> 
> detect-engine:
>  - sgh-mpm-context: full
> 
> If not, try that (uses ~5GB on a 10k ruleset for me).
> 
> Otherwise "ac" is going to be faster.
> 
> -- 
> ---------------------------------------------
> Victor Julien
> http://www.inliniac.net/
> PGP: http://www.inliniac.net/victorjulien.asc
> ---------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> 

I was running with "auto", will now try "full". Thanks.





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