<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Gene Albin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gene.albin@gmail.com">gene.albin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Gents,<br>  Thanks all for the suggestions. Specific responses below<br> <br>Rmkml - I made your recommended change to the suricata.yaml file (- profile: low) and there was no change.  Watching top the spike appeard to peak at 3.7GB then Suricata exited.<br>

<br>Dave - I have to admit that I'm not versed in C so I can't build the program you're describing.  Do you know where I could find a pre-built one?  I agree that upgrading to a 64-bit version would be the best choice, however I'm up against a very short timeline here and won't have time to upgrade the OS the reinstall Suricata and the rest of the tools that I need.  <br>

<br>Peter - Here are the results from both ulimit -aH and ulimit -a:<br><br><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">[gene@suri2 ~]$ ulimit -aH</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">core file size          (blocks, -c) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">scheduling priority             (-e) 0</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">pending signals                 (-i) 278528</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 32</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">open files                      (-n) 1024</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 8</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">POSIX message queues     (bytes, -q) 819200</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">real-time priority              (-r) 0</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">stack size              (kbytes, -s) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">max user processes              (-u) 278528</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">file locks                      (-x) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><br>[gene@suri2 ~]$ ulimit -a</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">core file size          (blocks, -c) 0</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">data seg size           (kbytes, -d) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">scheduling priority             (-e) 0</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">file size               (blocks, -f) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">pending signals                 (-i) 278528</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">max locked memory       (kbytes, -l) 32</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">max memory size         (kbytes, -m) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">open files                      (-n) 1024</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">pipe size            (512 bytes, -p) 8</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">POSIX message queues     (bytes, -q) 819200</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">real-time priority              (-r) 0</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">stack size              (kbytes, -s) 10240</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">cpu time               (seconds, -t) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">max user processes              (-u) 278528</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">

<span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">virtual memory          (kbytes, -v) unlimited</span><br style="font-family: courier new,monospace;"><span style="font-family: courier new,monospace;">file locks                      (-x) unlimited</span><br>

<br>I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at here, but it looks like my max memory size is unlimited.  Am I reading this correctly?<br>I've also looked over your screen capture from your Ubuntu 32-bit VM and can't figure out why I'm crashing.  What version of Suricata are you running on that 32-bit Ubuntu VM?  1.1b2?<br>
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<br>Gene</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:14 AM, Peter Manev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:petermanev@gmail.com" target="_blank">petermanev@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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    On 07/28/2011 02:54 PM, Dave Remien wrote:
    <blockquote type="cite">If you're up for it, about 15 lines of C code will
      give you a tiny program to test how much memory you can get for a
      single process - basically just malloc in a loop until you can't
      anymore. Sounds like your environment may actually be limited to
      2GB of process size; normal for Linux is 3GB (all in the 32 bit
      world). Or you could lobby for a 64 bit copy
      <div>
        of Centos; that'll eliminate the cap (for this purpose).</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Cheers,</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Dave<br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Gene
          Albin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gene.albin@gmail.com" target="_blank">gene.albin@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">I just created a ticket with the
            details.  To answer the questions here, I'm running the
            1.1b2 build from the tarball.  Not using git.  The machine
            is running the 32 bit version of CentOS5.6, but we just
            applied the kernel-PAE packages today to allow it to utilize
            more than 4GB of ram.  Is this what you are talking about,
            Dave?  Lastly I included the suricata.yaml file as well as
            the output from free -m and my collectl memory statistics
            during the fatal run.<br>
            <br>
            Thanks for helping out with this.  I thought that bumping
            the ram up to 16GB would fix it, but it appears not.  Maybe
            I'll start slicing off some rules and see where the
            threshold lies...<br>
            <font color="#888888"><br>
              Gene</font>
            <div>
              <div><br>
                <br>
                <div class="gmail_quote">
                  On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Dave Remien <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave.remien@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.remien@gmail.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">
                      <div>On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Will Metcalf
                        <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:william.metcalf@gmail.com" target="_blank">william.metcalf@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
                          Can you create a redmine ticket and attach a
                          scrubbed version of your<br>
                          suricata.yaml?  Along with output of free -m
                          prior to starting suri?<br>
                        </blockquote>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <div>Are you running a 32 bit kernel with a
                        2GB/2GB memory split, by any chance??</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Cheers,</div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Dave</div>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <div> </div>
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                            <br>
                            <a href="https://redmine.openinfosecfoundation.org/projects/suricata" target="_blank">https://redmine.openinfosecfoundation.org/projects/suricata</a><br>
                            <br>
                            Regards,<br>
                            <br>
                            Will<br>
                            <div>
                              <div>On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Gene
                                Albin <<a href="mailto:gene.albin@gmail.com" target="_blank">gene.albin@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:<br>
                                > Ok,  I'm probably doing something
                                wrong here, but every time I try to load
                                a<br>
                                > combined rule file with all of the
                                VRT and ET rules enabled (~30K rules) it<br>
                                > fails following stage 3:<br>
                                ><br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:14:09 -
                                (detect.c:631) <Info>
                                (SigLoadSignatures) --<br>
                                > 102 rule files processed. 30183
                                rules succesfully loaded, 164 rules
                                failed<br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:14:47 -
                                (detect.c:2161) <Info><br>
                                > (SigAddressPrepareStage1) -- 30701
                                signatures processed. 1800 are IP-only<br>
                                > rules, 20152 are inspecting packet
                                payload, 11088 inspect application
                                layer,<br>
                                > 0 are decoder event only<br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:14:47 -
                                (detect.c:2164) <Info><br>
                                > (SigAddressPrepareStage1) --
                                building signature grouping structure,
                                stage 1:<br>
                                > adding signatures to signature
                                source addresses... complete<br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:14:48 -
                                (detect.c:2806) <Info><br>
                                > (SigAddressPrepareStage2) --
                                building signature grouping structure,
                                stage 2:<br>
                                > building source address list...
                                complete<br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:16:40 -
                                (detect.c:3363) <Info><br>
                                > (SigAddressPrepareStage3) -- MPM
                                memory 1801173581 (dynamic 1801173581,
                                ctxs<br>
                                > 0, avg per ctx 0)<br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:16:40 -
                                (detect.c:3365) <Info><br>
                                > (SigAddressPrepareStage3) -- max
                                sig id 30701, array size 3838<br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:16:40 -
                                (detect.c:3376) <Info><br>
                                > (SigAddressPrepareStage3) --
                                building signature grouping structure,
                                stage 3:<br>
                                > building destination address
                                lists... complete<br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:16:43 -
                                (detect-engine-siggroup.c:1583)
                                <Error><br>
                                > (SigGroupHeadBuildHeadArray) --
                                [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_MEM_ALLOC(1)] -
                                SCMalloc<br>
                                > failed: Cannot allocate memory,
                                while trying to allocate 558852 bytes<br>
                                ><br>
                                > [7069] 27/7/2011 -- 14:16:43 -
                                (detect-engine-siggroup.c:1583)
                                <Error><br>
                                > (SigGroupHeadBuildHeadArray) --
                                [ERRCODE: SC_ERR_FATAL(169)] - Out of<br>
                                > memory. The engine cannot be
                                initialized. Exiting...<br>
                                ><br>
                                > I have done this while watching the
                                memory useage in top (set to refresh<br>
                                > every .2 seconds).  Initially when
                                this happened I only had 4GB allocated
                                to<br>
                                > the VM.  Useage never gets beyond
                                2GB so that left almost 2GB available. 
                                I<br>
                                > decided to bump the VM up to 8GB
                                but the problem didn't go away.  It
                                still<br>
                                > exits when the memory useage gets
                                to around 2GB.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Everything works fine when I load a
                                reduced ruleset, i.e. just VRT or just<br>
                                > ET, but for my tests I want to load
                                both.  Before I go back to the VM<br>
                                > administrator and ask for 16 GB
                                (and wait several days for the
                                allocation) I<br>
                                > was wondering if there might be a
                                config setting that is limiting the size<br>
                                > of memory allocated to the rules.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Running 1.1b2 on CentOS 5.6 - 4core
                                VMWare ESXi.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Any suggestions are welcome.<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Gene<br>
                                ><br>
                                > --<br>
                                > Gene Albin<br>
                                > <a href="mailto:gene.albin@gmail.com" target="_blank">gene.albin@gmail.com</a><br>
                                ><br>
                                ><br>
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                      <br clear="all">
                      <br>
                      -- <br>
                      "Of course, someone who knows more about this will
                      correct me if I'm<br>
                      wrong, and someone who knows less will correct me
                      if I'm right." <br>
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            -- <br>
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              <div>Gene Albin<br>
                <a href="mailto:gene.albin@gmail.com" target="_blank">gene.albin@gmail.com</a><br>
                <br>
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        -- <br>
        "Of course, someone who knows more about this will correct me if
        I'm<br>
        wrong, and someone who knows less will correct me if I'm right."
        <br>
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    </blockquote></div></div>
    In that respect.... What is your output of <br>
    ulimit -aH <br>
    and<br>
    ulimit -a<br>
    for the user that you run Suricata with?<br>
    <br>
    <pre cols="72">-- 
Regards,
Peter Manev</pre>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br></div></div>-- <br><div><div></div><div class="h5">Gene Albin<br><a href="mailto:gene.albin@gmail.com" target="_blank">gene.albin@gmail.com</a><br><br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br><br>Hi Gene, <br>I am using Suricata version 1.1beta2 (rev df3ca32).<br>What happens if you try to run Suricata as root?<br><br>Thanks<br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Peter Manev<br>