<div dir="ltr"><div>On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 10:30 AM, Charles Devoe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Charles.Devoe@cisecurity.org" target="_blank">Charles.Devoe@cisecurity.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div>Charles,</div><div><br></div><div>Good questions, responses inline.</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">



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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Running Suricata 4.0.0 and 4.0.3, Linux 6.8 (red hat variant), Kernel 3.8.13-118.8.1 and 4.1.12-103.9.2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">I have the following rule that is looking for a uri that contains abcde.py at the end.  As I understand it, if I have 3 content fields these should be a logical AND, not a logical OR.  That is,
 in this case the packet should include the POST AND /abcde.py AND Content-Length|3a| 56|0d 0a|<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, there is no 'OR' (unless using PCRE)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_7822581212788697013WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">alert http $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg: "This alert is for a uri"; content:"POST"; http_method; content:"/abcde.py"; http_uri; urilen:9; content:"Content-Length|3a| 56|0d 0a|"; http_header;
 classtype:malware; sid:123456; rev:4;)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><div><br></div><div>For this rule I would suggest writing as</div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">alert http $HOME_NET any -> $EXTERNAL_NET any (msg: "This alert is for a uri"; <b>flow:established,to_server;</b> content:"POST"; http_method; content:"/abcde.py"; http_uri; urilen:9; <b>http_content_len; content:"56";</b> sid:123456; rev:<b>5</b>;)</span></font></p></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The class type of "malware" does not exist in the typical classification.config, you would need to add that manually if using. </span></div></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_7822581212788697013WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">The rule is firing and giving me this stream  data, the only match I see is “Content-Length: 56”; I do not see the POST nor the abcde.py.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">HTTP/1.1 200 OK<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Last-Modified: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:31:49 GMT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Accept-Ranges: bytes<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">ETag: "4ccd5def5ce2cb1:0"<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Server: Microsoft-IIS/7.5<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2017 17:29:31 GMT<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Connection: close<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Content-Length: 56<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">User-agent: *<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Content-Length: 56<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u> </span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This is traffic that is seen $EXTERNAL_NET -> $HOME_NET, your rule was written for $HOME_NET -> $EXTERNAL_NET, you may not be looking at the right traffic.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_7822581212788697013WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">Questions<br>
1.    I am not getting all of the data?<br>
<br></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not entirely sure what you mean, feel free to share a pcap off list if you would like and we can see what is going on.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_7822581212788697013WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
2.  Does it matter if there is a space between content: and “POST”; that is will content: “POST” and content:“POST” behave the same?<br>
<br></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It does not matter, but for readability we recommend the format of  ----> content:"POST";</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_7822581212788697013WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">
3.  Other than the Suricata documentation, are there any other good resources for learning to write rules?</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="https://suricata.readthedocs.io">https://suricata.readthedocs.io</a> is a great reference for buffers and syntax. I recommend to check the rules out in the ET OPEN ruleset. You can also use the pcaps and write ups provided on <a href="https://malware-traffic-analysis.net">https://malware-traffic-analysis.net</a> and try to write some signatures on recent malware.<br></div><div><br></div><div>We (OISF) do live free 4 hour workshops, some materials can be found on last year's defcon workshops page. There is also the recent <a href="http://learnsuricata.com">learnsuricata.com</a> online training that was just launched. Both the workshop and online training cover rule writing basics. </div><div><br></div><div>For more in-depth rule writing training the OISF does live 2 day rule writing trainings, as well as private training events. The proceeds of which goes right back into the OISF for more suricata awesomeness.</div><div><br></div><div>HTH,</div><div><br></div><div>Jason</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_7822581212788697013WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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