[Oisf-devel] libhtp 0.5.x integration - bug 775

Anoop Saldanha anoopsaldanha at gmail.com
Wed May 15 07:08:44 UTC 2013


Right.  Thanks.

On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Ivan Ristic <ivan.ristic at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Anoop Saldanha <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ivan,
>>
>> I see the introduction of
>>
>> htp_tx_t *htp_connp_get_in_tx(const htp_connp_t *connp);
>> htp_tx_t *htp_connp_get_out_tx(const htp_connp_t *connp);
>>
>> Which means I won't be able to retrieve individual txs?
>
> Those 2 functions will give you only the currently active request and
> response, respectively. There can be one of each at any given time.
>
> With recent changes, callbacks are sent the correct tx, so the above
> functions will rarely be needed when you're processing one transaction
> at a time.
>
>
>> I receive 5
>> pipelined requests, so that would be 5 txs created.  How do I retrieve
>> the individual txs?
>
> The transactions are in htp_conn_t::transactions, which is a list. How
> to access the htp_conn_t pointer depends on your setup. You probably
> keep a pointer to connp somewhere in your context, and from there you
> can get a connection using htp_connp_get_connection().
>
>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Anoop Saldanha
>> <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Ivan Ristic <ivan.ristic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I wouldn't advise you to do any buffering anyhow.
>>>> But I am curious if you're
>>>> deleting transactions once you're done with them. Because, if you're not,
>>>> you may be allocating a lot of memory (all tx instances) on long-lived HTTP
>>>> connections.
>>>>
>>>
>>> We do delete them, once we're done.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Anoop Saldanha <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Victor Julien <victor at inliniac.net> wrote:
>>>>> > (bad juju to brian and ivan for top posting and/or html emails! :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 04/09/2013 10:21 AM, Ivan Ristic wrote:
>>>>> >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Anoop Saldanha <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com
>>>>> >> <mailto:anoopsaldanha at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Brian Rectanus <brectanu at gmail.com
>>>>> >>     <mailto:brectanu at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>     >
>>>>> >>     > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Brian Rectanus
>>>>> >> <brectanu at gmail.com
>>>>> >>     <mailto:brectanu at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >>     >>
>>>>> >>     >>
>>>>> >>     >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Anoop Saldanha
>>>>> >>     <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com <mailto:anoopsaldanha at gmail.com>>
>>>>> >>     >> wrote:
>>>>> >>     >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Victor Julien
>>>>> >>     <victor at inliniac.net <mailto:victor at inliniac.net>>
>>>>> >>     >>> wrote:
>>>>> >>     >>> > (moving to oisf-devel)
>>>>> >>     >>> >
>>>>> >>     >>> > On 04/08/2013 06:17 AM, Anoop Saldanha wrote:
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>> I recollect we introduced path and query double decoding
>>>>> >>     through
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>> configurable params, and also we had this thing with query
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>> decoding(single level).  Can you explain a bit what the
>>>>> >>     status was
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>> previously.  Seeing related failed uts.
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> We run the path normalization on the query through our
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> HTPCallbackRequestUriNormalizeQuery callback. Previously we
>>>>> >> used
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> htp_decode_path_inplace to normalize the query (e.g. for
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> uridecoding).
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> However, this was causing issues (remember that pcre "bug"
>>>>> >> we
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> discussed
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> a while back, where http:// turned into http:/).
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> In libhtp I copied htp_decode_path_inplace to
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> htp_decode_query_inplace
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> and also copied the config params and cfg funcs:
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> https://github.com/inliniac/suricata/commit/d41c762689a08e6814dc93e8bfebeceab97175c3
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> Hack of the 1st order, which is wrong in many ways. But it
>>>>> >>     basically
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> allowed me to make sure we don't normalize the query as if
>>>>> >>     it's path,
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> esp with turning ftp:// into ftp:/ and such.
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> For 0.5 integration I think we need a proper solution. The
>>>>> >> only
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> reason I
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> pushed my hack like this was that I knew in 0.5 we would
>>>>> >>     make things
>>>>> >>     >>> >>> right.
>>>>> >>     >>> >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >>
>>>>> >>     >>> >> I think if we still want to double decode, we still require
>>>>> >>     all of
>>>>> >>     >>> >> these above things from our bundled htp.
>>>>> >>     >>> >>
>>>>> >>     >>> >> -----
>>>>> >>     >>> >>
>>>>> >>     >>> >> In 0.5.x, tx->request_uri_normalized has been removed, and
>>>>> >>     we'd now
>>>>> >>     >>> >> have to use the REQUEST_URI hook.  We'll have to carry out
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> >>     >>> >> reconstruction ourselves, and store it ourselves in our
>>>>> >> HTPState.
>>>>> >>     >>> >>
>>>>> >>     >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> What are your thoughts on this?
>>>>> >>     >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> >
>>>>> >>     >>> > IIRC there is some function in libhtp that does just the
>>>>> >>     decoding of
>>>>> >>     >>> > uriencoding and unicode. We should probably just use that on
>>>>> >>     the query
>>>>> >>     >>> > and do the full normalization on the path.
>>>>> >>     >>> >
>>>>> >>     >>> > As a side thought: I think it would be nice to store path and
>>>>> >>     query
>>>>> >>     >>> > separately so that we can add http_path and http_query
>>>>> >>     keywords later
>>>>> >>     >>> > on.
>>>>> >>     >>> >
>>>>> >>     >>>
>>>>> >>     >>> We'd pretty much extract it directly from parsed_uri.  Will
>>>>> >> have to
>>>>> >>     >>> check if we need the extract double decode phase we have
>>>>> >>     currently in
>>>>> >>     >>> our bundled htp, in which case we'd need to store them
>>>>> >> separately.
>>>>> >>     >>>
>>>>> >>     >>
>>>>> >>     >> Yes, all the normalized components are in tx->parsed_uri.  This
>>>>> >>     is what is
>>>>> >>     >> used in ironbee to expose all the various parts like
>>>>> >>     tx->parsed_uri->path
>>>>> >>     >> and tx->parsed_uri->query.
>>>>> >>     >>
>>>>> >>     >> Also note that the hostname should now be obtained from
>>>>> >>     >> tx->request_hostname in 0.5.
>>>>> >>     >>
>>>>> >>     >> -B
>>>>> >>     >
>>>>> >>     >
>>>>> >>     > FYI, for an example using libhtp 0.5 see ironbee code.  This was
>>>>> >> all
>>>>> >>     > recently updated for 0.5.
>>>>> >>     >
>>>>> >>     > https://github.com/ironbee/ironbee/blob/0.7.x/modules/modhtp.c
>>>>> >>     >
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Will have a look.  Thanks.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>     Previously we would use tx->connp->conn->transactions to access txs
>>>>> >>     in the state.  Now that htp_connp_t is an opaque pointer how do I
>>>>> >>     access the txs? Tried locating helper functions to retrieve it, but
>>>>> >> I
>>>>> >>     didn't find any.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> It's an oversight that there isn't a helper function to retrieve
>>>>> >> transactions on a connections. I will add one tomorrow.
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >> Having said that, what is your use case that you require to retrieve
>>>>> >> transactions? I thought your code was driven by the callbacks, which >
>>>>> >> all
>>>>> >> come with a tx instance (via connp)? For my education, can you explain
>>>>> >> how you process connection data?
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > One of the things that we don't do out of the callbacks is logging the
>>>>> > requests. This is one of the things we need access to the TX store for.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> And to add to it, since we already have the txs stored in a list
>>>>> inside libhtp, re-buffering the txs would come as a redundant task,
>>>>> from where I see it.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Anoop Saldanha
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ivan Ristić
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Anoop Saldanha
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Anoop Saldanha
>
>
>
> --
> Ivan Ristić



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