[Oisf-devel] libhtp 0.5.x integration - bug 775

Anoop Saldanha anoopsaldanha at gmail.com
Mon Jun 3 18:32:18 UTC 2013


On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Victor Julien <victor at inliniac.net> wrote:
> On 06/03/2013 06:07 PM, Anoop Saldanha wrote:
>> @Victor
>>
>> Since we need to store the normalized request uri in our htp_state, we
>> can probably figure out a solution that we can also reuse in dcerpc
>> for storing transactions.
>>
>> Probably a linked_list that stores the tx_id(tx id for the related
>> data) of it's head?
>
> Would it be an option to use the per tx HtpUserData that we use in the
> 0.2.x implementation for body tracking?

Yes, we can use it store all generated buffers.

>
>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Anoop Saldanha
>> <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Right.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Ivan Ristic <ivan.ristic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Anoop Saldanha <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ivan,
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the introduction of
>>>>>
>>>>> htp_tx_t *htp_connp_get_in_tx(const htp_connp_t *connp);
>>>>> htp_tx_t *htp_connp_get_out_tx(const htp_connp_t *connp);
>>>>>
>>>>> Which means I won't be able to retrieve individual txs?
>>>>
>>>> Those 2 functions will give you only the currently active request and
>>>> response, respectively. There can be one of each at any given time.
>>>>
>>>> With recent changes, callbacks are sent the correct tx, so the above
>>>> functions will rarely be needed when you're processing one transaction
>>>> at a time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I receive 5
>>>>> pipelined requests, so that would be 5 txs created.  How do I retrieve
>>>>> the individual txs?
>>>>
>>>> The transactions are in htp_conn_t::transactions, which is a list. How
>>>> to access the htp_conn_t pointer depends on your setup. You probably
>>>> keep a pointer to connp somewhere in your context, and from there you
>>>> can get a connection using htp_connp_get_connection().
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Anoop Saldanha
>>>>> <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Ivan Ristic <ivan.ristic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I wouldn't advise you to do any buffering anyhow.
>>>>>>> But I am curious if you're
>>>>>>> deleting transactions once you're done with them. Because, if you're not,
>>>>>>> you may be allocating a lot of memory (all tx instances) on long-lived HTTP
>>>>>>> connections.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We do delete them, once we're done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Anoop Saldanha <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Victor Julien <victor at inliniac.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> (bad juju to brian and ivan for top posting and/or html emails! :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 04/09/2013 10:21 AM, Ivan Ristic wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Anoop Saldanha <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:anoopsaldanha at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Brian Rectanus <brectanu at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:brectanu at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>>     > On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Brian Rectanus
>>>>>>>>>> <brectanu at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>     <mailto:brectanu at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Anoop Saldanha
>>>>>>>>>>     <anoopsaldanha at gmail.com <mailto:anoopsaldanha at gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Victor Julien
>>>>>>>>>>     <victor at inliniac.net <mailto:victor at inliniac.net>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > (moving to oisf-devel)
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > On 04/08/2013 06:17 AM, Anoop Saldanha wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>> I recollect we introduced path and query double decoding
>>>>>>>>>>     through
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>> configurable params, and also we had this thing with query
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>> decoding(single level).  Can you explain a bit what the
>>>>>>>>>>     status was
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>> previously.  Seeing related failed uts.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> We run the path normalization on the query through our
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> HTPCallbackRequestUriNormalizeQuery callback. Previously we
>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> htp_decode_path_inplace to normalize the query (e.g. for
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> uridecoding).
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> However, this was causing issues (remember that pcre "bug"
>>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> discussed
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> a while back, where http:// turned into http:/).
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> In libhtp I copied htp_decode_path_inplace to
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> htp_decode_query_inplace
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> and also copied the config params and cfg funcs:
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/inliniac/suricata/commit/d41c762689a08e6814dc93e8bfebeceab97175c3
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> Hack of the 1st order, which is wrong in many ways. But it
>>>>>>>>>>     basically
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> allowed me to make sure we don't normalize the query as if
>>>>>>>>>>     it's path,
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> esp with turning ftp:// into ftp:/ and such.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> For 0.5 integration I think we need a proper solution. The
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> reason I
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> pushed my hack like this was that I knew in 0.5 we would
>>>>>>>>>>     make things
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>> right.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >> I think if we still want to double decode, we still require
>>>>>>>>>>     all of
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >> these above things from our bundled htp.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >> -----
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >> In 0.5.x, tx->request_uri_normalized has been removed, and
>>>>>>>>>>     we'd now
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >> have to use the REQUEST_URI hook.  We'll have to carry out
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >> reconstruction ourselves, and store it ourselves in our
>>>>>>>>>> HTPState.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> What are your thoughts on this?
>>>>>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > IIRC there is some function in libhtp that does just the
>>>>>>>>>>     decoding of
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > uriencoding and unicode. We should probably just use that on
>>>>>>>>>>     the query
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > and do the full normalization on the path.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > As a side thought: I think it would be nice to store path and
>>>>>>>>>>     query
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > separately so that we can add http_path and http_query
>>>>>>>>>>     keywords later
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> > on.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> >
>>>>>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> We'd pretty much extract it directly from parsed_uri.  Will
>>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> check if we need the extract double decode phase we have
>>>>>>>>>>     currently in
>>>>>>>>>>     >>> our bundled htp, in which case we'd need to store them
>>>>>>>>>> separately.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>>
>>>>>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >> Yes, all the normalized components are in tx->parsed_uri.  This
>>>>>>>>>>     is what is
>>>>>>>>>>     >> used in ironbee to expose all the various parts like
>>>>>>>>>>     tx->parsed_uri->path
>>>>>>>>>>     >> and tx->parsed_uri->query.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >> Also note that the hostname should now be obtained from
>>>>>>>>>>     >> tx->request_hostname in 0.5.
>>>>>>>>>>     >>
>>>>>>>>>>     >> -B
>>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>>     > FYI, for an example using libhtp 0.5 see ironbee code.  This was
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>     > recently updated for 0.5.
>>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>>     > https://github.com/ironbee/ironbee/blob/0.7.x/modules/modhtp.c
>>>>>>>>>>     >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Will have a look.  Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     Previously we would use tx->connp->conn->transactions to access txs
>>>>>>>>>>     in the state.  Now that htp_connp_t is an opaque pointer how do I
>>>>>>>>>>     access the txs? Tried locating helper functions to retrieve it, but
>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>     didn't find any.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's an oversight that there isn't a helper function to retrieve
>>>>>>>>>> transactions on a connections. I will add one tomorrow.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having said that, what is your use case that you require to retrieve
>>>>>>>>>> transactions? I thought your code was driven by the callbacks, which >
>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>> come with a tx instance (via connp)? For my education, can you explain
>>>>>>>>>> how you process connection data?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One of the things that we don't do out of the callbacks is logging the
>>>>>>>>> requests. This is one of the things we need access to the TX store for.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And to add to it, since we already have the txs stored in a list
>>>>>>>> inside libhtp, re-buffering the txs would come as a redundant task,
>>>>>>>> from where I see it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Anoop Saldanha
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Ivan Ristić
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Anoop Saldanha
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Anoop Saldanha
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Ivan Ristić
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Anoop Saldanha
>>
>>
>>
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